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    An amusingly hidden correction from the Mail, and: let's build a database of newspaper corrections?

    Here's an amusingly hidden-away correction from the Mail that went up on Friday.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/article-1388708/Dr-Austin.html

    Statements contained in an article published on 7 March, headed “Babies who are born at 23 weeks should be left to die, says NHS chief”, were wrongly attributed to Dr Daphne Austin, who is a medical consultant specialist employed by the NHS. 

    They were made in a programme in which Dr Austin participated and were published by us in good faith.  In particular, Dr Austin did not state that babies should be “left to die” and did not express the opinion that the financial aspects of neonatal care were the issue.  We apologise to Dr Austin for the errors.


    As I've written a zillion times before, clear corrections for honest (or even dishonest) mistakes are a good thing, and they make me trust a person/institution more rather than less, especially when freely given.

    Since they're often hard to find, I wondered if someone had thought about setting up a database or blog of corrections? Stop me if it's already been done (or rather, link me) but I think it might be useful, if not as a database to inform people, at least as a tool for gathering them all in one place, and triggering some conversations and thoughts about them.

    In the world of academia you might enjoy:

    http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/

    And in case you missed it, here's is the ubercorrection:

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/hygiene/home/article190130.ece

    IN an article published on The Sun website on January 27 under the headline ?Gollum joker killed in live rail horror’ we incorrectly stated that Julian Brooker, 23, of Brighton, was blown 15ft into the air after accidentally touching a live railway line.

    His parents have asked us to make clear he was not turned into a fireball, was not obsessed with the number 23 and didn’t go drinking on that date every month.

    Julian’s mother did not say, during or after the inquest, her son often got on all fours creeping around their house pretending to be Gollum.

    Also, quotes from a witness should have been attributed to Gemma Costin not Eva Natasha. We apologise for the distress this has caused Julian’s family and friends.

     

    Update:

    I'm a bit of a dumbass for forgetting this site, which I've visited before:

    http://www.regrettheerror.com/

    though it's generally jsut the funnier ones.

    In my fantasy world, we'd have a set of community-sourced factual corrections and background material on a structured database of news stories, but that wld take a few million quid more than we have at our disposal.

     

     

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    about 1 year ago Anna Fruen responded:
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    Good idea. http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/
    about 1 year ago Pete responded:
    > that wld take a few million quid more than we have at our disposal.

    Only if you build it as a Government IT Project.

    In the real world, until it gets really big you're looking at a few tens of quid for hosting such a thing.

    about 1 year ago pangalactic (Twitter) liked this post.
    about 1 year ago Lee Mayren responded:
    I agree with Pete. I don't think cost is an issue, especially at the beginning. You are only paying for space on a server for the database. I've just seen a hosting company that offers unlimited space for £9 a month. I think the problems you will have is the processes of gathering the data, administering the site and encouraging community involvement. Putting it in a relational database and presenting it on web pages / rss feeds / etc is a simple task. Then again I am a web developer!
    about 1 year ago a_Chris_Webb (Twitter) responded:
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    Reading the "Gollum" apology, I assumed it was a joke. Goldacre's a hoot when he's trying, I thought. BUT ITS TRUE! The actually printed that crap.
    about 1 year ago Paul responded:
    I created a blog for storing retractions over a year ago, and then promptly forgot to update it, after about 4 posts.

    I should really resurrect it. The link is in the 'homepage' field of this comment.

    about 1 year ago Paul responded:
    It seems the link isn't in fact in any such place... sorry.

    this is it: http://retractions.tumblr.com

    about 1 year ago krelnik (Twitter) responded:
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    There's also a US-based effort called @media_bugs that is intended as a crowdsourced "but reporting" (i.e. corrections) system for journalism. Web site is here: http://mediabugs.org/

    They even got uber-quack Mike Adams to issue a correction, once! Here:
    http://mediabugs.org/bugs/natural-news-cover-up

    about 1 year ago krelnik (Twitter) responded:
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    Argh... It's still morning here and I haven't had all my coffee yet. Of course I meant "bug reporting" not "but reporting".
    about 1 year ago maltrack responded:
    Dr Brooke Magnanti is trying to do something on theses lines in her fields of expertise at her rebuttal site http://sexonomics-uk.blogspot.com/
    about 1 year ago mathew (Twitter) responded:
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    6 across: He is not a pedophile (7, 6).
    about 1 year ago CLP responded:
    Wait, if Dr. Austin didn't say premature babies should be left to die, who did? Or did the reporter just make it up completely? I think the newspaper should give a fuller explanation, because this correction just undermines their credibility. (Yes, I know we're talking about the Daily Mail here.)
    12 months ago Zygotegifts (Twitter) responded:
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    What the PCC should do is make newspapers print the correction in the same place an with the same size text as the original story - this could lead to very amusing headlines on the front page :)
    12 months ago Evan Harper responded:
    http://www.regrettheerror.com/ is pretty good.
    12 months ago maevie responded:
    CLP - it does say "[the statements] were made in a programme in which Dr Austin participated", but as you say, it doesn't actually attribute them.

    I would be really keen to be involved in a retraction watch database. The ability to make shit up and then 'apologise' to an audience that is barely a fraction of the original audience, is just a phenomenal injustice. Sadly I don't have the IT skills to do the groundwork...

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